tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28423454.post2687055162170898215..comments2023-10-10T05:02:26.827-07:00Comments on WesternGrit: Ruby Dhalla - Victim of Political Drive-By Smear...WesternGrithttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06658358114507615351noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28423454.post-3337470398722765672009-05-09T18:24:00.000-07:002009-05-09T18:24:00.000-07:00Anon 10:47, you have this completely reversed. Ms...Anon 10:47, you have this completely reversed. Ms. Dhalla doesn't have to "prove" anything. The onus is squarely on her accusers and, in this instance, it borders on a joint and several burden of proof.<br /><br />If they were the sort easily intimidated they would never have come forward in the first place.<br /><br />Having had a fair bit of experience with nannies (believe me, if you're a lawyer you'll likely wind up doing a fair number of favours for them and their friends) I find it more than surprising that three of them would come forward in such a short interval with such remarkably similar complaints against a person they would have perceived as powerful and well connected.<br /><br />The more I learn of this case the more convinced I become that the liar or liars in this matter will be exposed in short order.<br /><br />I've known professional liars, definitely top tier, and they wouldn't be able to bluff their way through this mess.<br /><br />Does anyone know what the immigration status of these three nannies is at the moment? What are their nationalities?The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28423454.post-75582306423752850612009-05-09T12:29:00.000-07:002009-05-09T12:29:00.000-07:00I always enjoyed the challenge of these situations...I always enjoyed the challenge of these situations. If the nannies' stories are contrived there's no way they'll survive close scrutiny.<br /><br />You ever so gently draw them in, getting them to commit to an increasingly detailed account. Then you stand the accounts, side by side, to reveal what's consistent, what's inconsistent and what is missing that ought to be there.<br /><br />I defended a guy in a criminal case where the Crown called three witnesses, all of whom swore they had been present and saw the crime with their own eyes. After I mauled these witnesses for an entire afternoon, the judge acquitted my client and directed the Crown to institute perjury and obstruction charges against all three of his own witnesses. Chortle, chortle.<br /><br />It should be a simple matter to test the veracity of these nannies and, if they're lying, they'll be under unbearable pressure to reveal who put them up to it.<br /><br />Responding to this sort of thing has to be kept to the proper forum. The worst possible forum is the one Dhalla's using - the media. That merely gives the complainants a free opportunity to prepare themselves for the case she'll be making. The last thing she needs to be doing now is making their lives any easier.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28423454.post-49239689930956399162009-05-09T07:09:00.000-07:002009-05-09T07:09:00.000-07:00How is it a domestic situation warrants a parliame...How is it a domestic situation warrants a parliamentary review of personal conduct while no similar parliamentary review is held over a Minister of Immigration who oversteps his powers and issues orders to de-list an entire communities and their funding because one member of that community called him names? (...Well, one name, anyway...a "whore", actually.)<br />Are we to have yet another taxpayer funded Conservative propaganda show?foottothefirenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28423454.post-43815083142300152752009-05-09T06:29:00.000-07:002009-05-09T06:29:00.000-07:00Even if there is a politically motivated attack be...Even if there is a politically motivated attack behind these allegations -- and it certainly seems plausible and even likely that there is -- some of the allegations could still be true. All this needs to be thoroughly investigated.<br /><br />The media has been mostly one-sided and the Toronto Star has not been at all critical in their presentation and analysis. For so-called investigative reporting, the Toronto Star is extremely shallow with so many obvious questions not even mentioned.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28423454.post-47384556901297756352009-05-09T06:18:00.000-07:002009-05-09T06:18:00.000-07:00The phrase "they don't owe me anything" may be bec...The phrase "they don't owe me anything" may be because they don't know the normal Canadian phrase "paid in full". I don't find this odd.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28423454.post-75267698309322368682009-05-09T01:32:00.000-07:002009-05-09T01:32:00.000-07:00MoS wrote:
"The complainants deserve to be heard ...MoS wrote:<br /><br />"The complainants deserve to be heard and put to the proof of their allegations. If they have conspired to smear Ms. Dhalla, any moderately skilled counsel could take their stories apart."<br /><br />Absolutely right MoS. It will be very interesting to see how all of this unfolds.penlanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07830912393649649485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28423454.post-1076450756359782592009-05-08T22:48:00.000-07:002009-05-08T22:48:00.000-07:00I expect a well timed series of these scandals.
Th...I expect a well timed series of these scandals.<br />The Cons have cash (way more than they can spend legally as they have already demonstrated)<br />I am sure there is an army of researchers and private detectives picking through the private lives and past of their opponents (probably investigating their own folks too, never know when leverage will be needed). <br />Invent and embellish is their operandi. <br />And our silly "media" play along.Northern PoVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04670080478290108536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28423454.post-20018626102776274732009-05-08T22:47:00.000-07:002009-05-08T22:47:00.000-07:00The lawyer who spoke for Ms.Ruby has a lot to prov...The lawyer who spoke for Ms.Ruby has a lot to prove. My fear is that the 'hireds' will be terribly intimidated. And they will be by Ruby's hired gun. He already has me calling 'despicable' as a lwyer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28423454.post-36073092005332921062009-05-08T20:46:00.000-07:002009-05-08T20:46:00.000-07:00I'm not saying there was no dispute over wages. L...I'm not saying there was no dispute over wages. Likely there was a wage discussion - as a result of the employee impersonating Ms. Dhalla. Neil Dhalla probably had a dispute over what was to be paid for what work done. This also explains the housekeeper's claim of the bogus snow shoveling. They were trying to claim wages for work that wasn't done.<br /><br />Not saying that Ruby's mother wasn't difficult to work for, or anything like that. Just saying that there is little evidence to prove Ms. Dhalla did anything, and plenty of (written and signed) evidence showing the maids/domestics lied. The lawyer wouldn't perjure himself by uttering something he knows is a lie...WesternGrithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06658358114507615351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28423454.post-72764941743825052382009-05-08T19:11:00.000-07:002009-05-08T19:11:00.000-07:00I don't know, WG. The wording of that first recei...I don't know, WG. The wording of that first receipt "they don't owe me anything" is more than curious. Why would anyone use that language on a receipt? Have you ever done that? I certainly haven't.<br /><br />Dhalla has put forward a rebuttal, that's all. I wouldn't draw conclusions about the veracity of either side at this point.<br /><br />The complainants deserve to be heard and put to the proof of their allegations. If they have conspired to smear Ms. Dhalla, any moderately skilled counsel could take their stories apart.<br /><br />For reasons I can't understand, Ruby Dhalla is leading with her chin. At this early stage she has very little to gain from that risky posture.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28423454.post-68552984098976654732009-05-08T17:02:00.000-07:002009-05-08T17:02:00.000-07:00Get ready to see more like this. Harper & thug...Get ready to see more like this. Harper & thugs are fighting for their political lives & will do ANYTHING to stay in power -<br />lie, fabricate, cheat, whatever it takes. Nasty, vile crap.penlanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07830912393649649485noreply@blogger.com